2 Cycle Oil In Your Gas Tank

[99chevy7.4L]

Guys that mixture from what I read is 1 ouce to 5 gallons. So your talking 6 ounces total to a 30 gallon tank. I thought of trying it actually. Riggs you have a point some of the DIE HARDS don't want to even consider anything NEW and thats fine. I am optimistic however. To the poster that the ENGINEERS no more then we ever will. In my opinion the factories don't always do what is the best for OUT trucks. The 4LE60's need servos to shift better that is an improvement. And need firmer shifts in order to avoid burning up. The 6.0L LS-1's are lazy and need blackbear tuning to get them running right. My 7.4L in my 99 is detuned as detuned can get. THe camshaft is so far retarded in it that its RIDICULOUS. They couldn't have a mighty big block outperforming the new LS1 that came out later that year. The injectors from the factory are leaking POS's. The FPR is junk and gets eaten up by our SUPPOSEDLY great quality of GAS. So the engineers at the factory need to rethink. Why would they make our trucks LAST FOREVER. They wouldn't sell any. So improvements no matter how crazy the thinking should atleast be considered at the basis of there merit. If we weren't OPEN MINDED we would NEVER get tuned or NEVER install Vette Servo's or shift kits. Not trying to step on TOES but Riggs is just being a lil more OPEN MINDED as we all need to be to some extent. JUST MY OPINION.

 

[Black02Silverado]

Guys that mixture from what I read is 1 ouce to 5 gallons. So your talking 6 ounces total to a 30 gallon tank. I thought of trying it actually. Riggs you have a point some of the DIE HARDS don't want to even consider anything NEW and thats fine. I am optimistic however. To the poster that the ENGINEERS no more then we ever will. In my opinion the factories don't always do what is the best for OUT trucks. The 4LE60's need servos to shift better that is an improvement. And need firmer shifts in order to avoid burning up. The 6.0L LS-1's are lazy and need blackbear tuning to get them running right. My 7.4L in my 99 is detuned as detuned can get. THe camshaft is so far retarded in it that its RIDICULOUS. They couldn't have a mighty big block outperforming the new LS1 that came out later that year. The injectors from the factory are leaking POS's. The FPR is junk and gets eaten up by our SUPPOSEDLY great quality of GAS. So the engineers at the factory need to rethink. Why would they make our trucks LAST FOREVER. They wouldn't sell any. So improvements no matter how crazy the thinking should atleast be considered at the basis of there merit. If we weren't OPEN MINDED we would NEVER get tuned or NEVER install Vette Servo's or shift kits. Not trying to step on TOES but Riggs is just being a lil more OPEN MINDED as we all need to be to some extent. JUST MY OPINION.

Now if only everyone would "consider anything NEW" and switched over to synthetic oil, life would be good!

 

[Nick The Great]

It would be a much different world if engineers were in charge

Ask any engineer, there are constraints that must be followed, and these constraints are put in place by non-engineers: accountants, lawyers, politicians, safety inspectors, etc.

 

[Vmax2007]

It would be a much different world if engineers were in charge

Ask any engineer, there are constraints that must be followed, and these constraints are put in place by non-engineers: accountants, lawyers, politicians, safety inspectors, etc.

+1,000,000,000 to the power of infinity.

 

[Vmax2007]

Guys that mixture from what I read is 1 ouce to 5 gallons. So your talking 6 ounces total to a 30 gallon tank. I thought of trying it actually. Riggs you have a point some of the DIE HARDS don't want to even consider anything NEW and thats fine. I am optimistic however. To the poster that the ENGINEERS no more then we ever will. In my opinion the factories don't always do what is the best for OUT trucks. The 4LE60's need servos to shift better that is an improvement. And need firmer shifts in order to avoid burning up. The 6.0L LS-1's are lazy and need blackbear tuning to get them running right. My 7.4L in my 99 is detuned as detuned can get. THe camshaft is so far retarded in it that its RIDICULOUS. They couldn't have a mighty big block outperforming the new LS1 that came out later that year. The injectors from the factory are leaking POS's. The FPR is junk and gets eaten up by our SUPPOSEDLY great quality of GAS. So the engineers at the factory need to rethink. Why would they make our trucks LAST FOREVER. They wouldn't sell any. So improvements no matter how crazy the thinking should atleast be considered at the basis of there merit. If we weren't OPEN MINDED we would NEVER get tuned or NEVER install Vette Servo's or shift kits. Not trying to step on TOES but Riggs is just being a lil more OPEN MINDED as we all need to be to some extent. JUST MY OPINION.

Spoken like a true non-Engineer (No offense intended).

 

[Draenor]

It would be a much different world if engineers were in charge

Ask any engineer, there are constraints that must be followed, and these constraints are put in place by non-engineers: accountants, lawyers, politicians, safety inspectors, etc.

+1,000,000,000 to the power of infinity.

I'll raise that

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[99chevy7.4L]

Well come on guys if they did what they should they would solve alot of issues we do right out of the gate to get our trucks running they way they SHOULD. How many have emssions issues with a blackbear, diablo, or superchips tune. And how many of us see better fuel mileage after a tune from blackbear or any of the others. Why don't they improve it. We have proven there is no issues with emissions, or fuel economy. THe BIG 3 are trying to meet stringent CAFE requirements when most of us do on a daily basis. Just my opinion.

 

[Nick The Great]

Well come on guys if they did what they should they would solve alot of issues we do right out of the gate to get our trucks running they way they SHOULD. How many have emssions issues with a blackbear, diablo, or superchips tune. And how many of us see better fuel mileage after a tune from blackbear or any of the others. Why don't they improve it. We have proven there is no issues with emissions, or fuel economy. THe BIG 3 are trying to meet stringent CAFE requirements when most of us do on a daily basis. Just my opinion.

Well now you're talking about what I call the "Lowest Common Denominator Theory." Some Lawyer at GM determined that detuning vehicles resulted in less warranty claims and in general kept people from hurting their vehicles and complaining about GM's quality. We may have our vehicles tuned, but we also care enough about them not to tear them apart. They're trying to protect people from themselves

Why do you think there are stickers on lawn mowers warning you not to put your hand under the deck? Or warn you that McDonalds coffee is hot? There are ACTUALLY people stupid enough not to know that!

 

[Vmax2007]

Well come on guys if they did what they should they would solve alot of issues we do right out of the gate to get our trucks running they way they SHOULD. How many have emssions issues with a blackbear, diablo, or superchips tune. And how many of us see better fuel mileage after a tune from blackbear or any of the others. Why don't they improve it. We have proven there is no issues with emissions, or fuel economy. THe BIG 3 are trying to meet stringent CAFE requirements when most of us do on a daily basis. Just my opinion.

Do you REALLY think the Engineers are not capable of doing what Justin (or other aftermarket tuners) do? There is a reason behind every decision they make. Some of which we do not like (i.e. Torque Mgmt) and many of these decisions are NOT made by the Engineers.

Also, I do have a Vette Servo and my shift pressures are turned up because I prefer them that way, but as an engineer, I do NOT believe this adds life to the transmission. Todays fluids are designed for sheer (slippage). I have not seen any change in my tranny temps between stock and tuned/servo. Friction causes heat and heat kills fluid/trannies. The slippage that occurs during the "smooth" shifts does not create any significant heat build-up. GM makes the shifts smooth because 99.9% of buyers prefer them that way. If anything, quick/firm shifts are harder on trannies/drivetrains, due to the shock load put on the clutches/bands as well as the the mechanical components (gears, u-joints, etc) in the drivetrain.

 

[99chevy7.4L]

That was always my understanding that making the transmission shift firmer and quicker reduces the slippage and thus eliminating any undue heat. Heat is an automatic transmission's worst enemy as you siad. I know this first hand as the 4L80E in my last dually grenaded itself due to excessive heat. THe tech that worked on it said heat was the issue. Of course there are pro's and cons to everything. You make the tranny shift firmer to save it. 2000 bucks or more to replace it. But the U-joints take a lil more punishment. 20 bucks for a u-joint 2K for a tranny. I like replacing u-joints over dropping tranny's . Not trying to argue but that is I think its a valid point. My theory is alot of what they do is so people keep going back for service warranty or not. ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY nothing else. They don't care about the consumer they care about there wallets. We want to make our trucks last so we do what has been proven to be things that help it survive.