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the mds on my ram does a good job, little annoying at times now that i have exhaust but still like it
So, I test drove a 2011 today
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That's like saying an I6 is the same thing as a V6 because they're both 6 cylinder engines. They're completely different systems... so just because someone may have an issue with the 3.8L V6 doesn't mean they wouldn't like the 4.0L I6. See what i mean
Both systems deactivate valves and injectors to go from 8 to 4 cylinder operation. Seems pretty similar to me.
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That's like saying an I6 is the same thing as a V6 because they're both 6 cylinder engines. They're completely different systems... so just because someone may have an issue with the 3.8L V6 doesn't mean they wouldn't like the 4.0L I6. See what i mean
I fully understand what you are saying, but it would seem logical that if he is appose to the cylinder deactivation in one brand a person would be hesitant to purchase another with a similar technology. I agree that they are different systems, but not all together that different. From the description I have read about Chrysler's MDS vs GM AFM they seem to work in a similar fashion.
I'm not an AFM/MDS hater. I have driven my truck with and without it (Black Bear tuned) and I will say it actually does help. Not a huge amount, but I am averaging about 1-1.5mpg less with it turned off. I think the people that didn't see any loss probably drive their trucks hard enough that it was rarely on. The only reason I turned mine off is because I tow frequently and it would try to come on while I was towing. Obviously it didn't have the power so it would switch back and forth.
I also wouldn't buy the 4.8/4 speed combo. Not when you have the 5.3 or 6.2 with a 6 speed as an option.
That would be me.
It still comes on in tow mode??
what exactly did you test drive? a half ton i assume?
what options are you trying to get? trim level?
you can get into a lower level truck with the NHT package (6.2l,6spd,3.73 ratio with 9.5" rear end) like mine for alot less than the common 6.2l 3:42 geared trucks on the lot (most that i seen like that were all SLT or LTZ trucks), mine was 37K canadian so i could only imagine how inexpensive one in the US would be, BUT they are only available in Ext. cab and CC designations. I can easily get 18-20MPG unloaded highway. (untuned, only a muffler swap)
Just a basic Z71 package LT. I really fell in love with the all terrain sierra they had
. custom seats, mirror caps, rims, grill, black bowtie with white outline just it was 51k 
.Only reason i haven't looked at the 6.2 is i dont need anything that big.
I am looking at Ext. cabs though. so i might look into them.
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That's what I was told in a different thread here a while back. I mentioned that I thought the AFM was what made the truck feel sluggish at times, that's why I drove around in Tow/Haul mode which feels just right to me except the shift points are a bit high for my normal driving. Someone else said that the AFM still comes on in Tow/Haul so I guess it's all in the factory tranny tuning for me. That means I need an Autocal to tune the tranny how it should be.
what exactly did you test drive? a half ton i assume?
what options are you trying to get? trim level?
you can get into a lower level truck with the NHT package (6.2l,6spd,3.73 ratio with 9.5" rear end) like mine for alot less than the common 6.2l 3:42 geared trucks on the lot (most that i seen like that were all SLT or LTZ trucks), mine was 37K canadian so i could only imagine how inexpensive one in the US would be, BUT they are only available in Ext. cab and CC designations. I can easily get 18-20MPG unloaded highway. (untuned, only a muffler swap)
Just a basic Z71 package LT. I really fell in love with the all terrain sierra they had
Only reason i haven't looked at the 6.2 is i dont need anything that big.
I only mention because you can have the big engine/towing package (hauls ass) for a lot lower price than the standard 5.3 and 6.2 packages that are commonly on the lot.
have you "built your own" online to see how much?
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Yep, AFM still comes on in T/H mode. The tranny tuning is the only difference.
You know, I have the right and the power to automatically ban you for saying "you don't need anything that big". Most of us don't NEED anything that big. I don't need a black bear tune, Jrod doesn't need a Maggie, you don't need a lift, etc. I see that again and you're gone.
You know, I have the right and the power to automatically ban you for saying "you don't need anything that big". Most of us don't NEED anything that big. I don't need a black bear tune, Jrod doesn't need a Maggie, you don't need a lift, etc. I see that again and you're gone.
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La Bestia
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Yep, AFM still comes on in T/H mode. The tranny tuning is the only difference.
You know, I have the right and the power to automatically ban you for saying "you don't need anything that big". Most of us don't NEED anything that big. I don't need a black bear tune, Jrod doesn't need a Maggie, you don't need a lift, etc. I see that again and you're gone.
Since I need it and don't have it does that mean you'll pay for me to get a 6.2?
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