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Something you seem to struggle with is that there's GM's out there that don't leak, and have not leaked. You always say that it's only a matter of time until it does. I don't recall saying no GM's leak, only that mine doesn't, and haven't.All I ever heard was that it leaked
And by association all other GM's leaked. Usually when someone appears to have a hate on for a brand for something like that, it's more of a consistent problem.
My apologies for being wrong
Well, when a brand new 43K truck leaks oil in it's first year with under 5k miles on it, gets fixed, thenstarts leaking again a few years later with under 40k miles on it...and has been leaking PS fluid from the hoses for years. Yeah, I get pissed. And then last year i see oil film on the bottom of the oil pan on my 40k mile 2008 Corvette. yeah, I get pissed.
And I never said they all leak. But I did say GM has an issue with them leaking as it is a very common issue.
But, I am sure the fanboys and apologists who happen to have one that doesn't leak think none of them do. That works both ways huh?
Well, there was the power steering return line on my Blazer, but that was from off-road use and I ripped the line off.... Silly GM for not using solid steel pipes. [emoji38]
If you hate the vehicles so much, take the loss and get rid of them, and don't buy another GM
You'll be happier, less stressed, and with the money you save on oil, it should make up for depreciation [emoji38]
I'm letting it go here.
Now, it's about time to see what the Titan gets traded in for
A solid pipe wouldn't actually work. Just sayin' 
Something you seem to struggle with is that there's GM's out there that don't leak, and have not leaked. You always say that it's only a matter of time until it does. I don't recall saying no GM's leak, only that mine doesn't, and haven't.All I ever heard was that it leaked
And by association all other GM's leaked. Usually when someone appears to have a hate on for a brand for something like that, it's more of a consistent problem.
My apologies for being wrong
Well, when a brand new 43K truck leaks oil in it's first year with under 5k miles on it, gets fixed, thenstarts leaking again a few years later with under 40k miles on it...and has been leaking PS fluid from the hoses for years. Yeah, I get pissed. And then last year i see oil film on the bottom of the oil pan on my 40k mile 2008 Corvette. yeah, I get pissed.
And I never said they all leak. But I did say GM has an issue with them leaking as it is a very common issue.
But, I am sure the fanboys and apologists who happen to have one that doesn't leak think none of them do. That works both ways huh?
Well, there was the power steering return line on my Blazer, but that was from off-road use and I ripped the line off.... Silly GM for not using solid steel pipes. [emoji38]
If you hate the vehicles so much, take the loss and get rid of them, and don't buy another GM
You'll be happier, less stressed, and with the money you save on oil, it should make up for depreciation [emoji38]
I'm letting it go here.
Now, it's about time to see what the Titan gets traded in for
You really do have reading comprehension issues, don't you?
And just because yours does not leak, does not mean this is not a VERY common issue. There are multiple TSB's and posts/complaints galore about this issue all over. Pull your head out of the sand and open your eyes. A GM dealer tech even told me it is a common issue that he sees all the time. He also told me that nearly ALL power steering lines leak in these trucks. Not always to the point of dripping or needing to add very often, but the hose crimps nearly always seep fluid and make the hoses wet. He quoted me new lines, then told me to not bother unless it starts leaking more severely because the new ones will most likely do the same thing within a year or 2.
but you go ahead and keep putting words in my mouth saying I said they ALL leak, while at the same you say it's not an issue just because yours doesn't....yet.
Denial runs very deep.
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Let me summarize for you Drperry. Try to read slowly and comprehend, k?
1. I do not hate GM or any other brand (except maybe Toyota...lol). Being rightfully pissed off about an issue and bitching about it does not mean I hate them.
2. Not all of my GM's have leaked, but many have. My GMT800 never leaked or burned a drop in 100k miles I owned it. Well, the PS lines did, but not to the point of dripping on the floor. My 2007 GMC and my 2008 Corvette have both had multiple oil leaks and the truck also leaks PS fluid from the hoses. Both had oil leaks from nearly brand new, both were fixed and both started leaking again within a few years. But I am not supposed to be pissed?
3. I never said ALL GMs leak oil. I did say this is a very common issue in the GMT900's (and the C6 Corvettes as well)and have backed that up with pointing out there are multiple TSBs for it and the complaints about it are very common. Even other members right here on this forum have had the issue in their GMT900's. You saying it is not an issue because you have not experienced it is just plain denial and pure fanboyism/apologist. GM dealer techs have even confirmed this as well.
4. I do not hate my truck or my Vette. Will I buy another GM truck? Probably, if/when they pull their heads out of their ass. I would not buy a current new GM truck because I simply do not like them. Not sure I would buy another new GM car though. I do not trust them and am not convinced they have gotten their quality up to par yet and likely wont until they can figure out how to be profitable while not sucking on the gov't tit. they are still in cost-cutting mode.
Now, did you get all that? Maybe read it again?
1. I do not hate GM or any other brand (except maybe Toyota...lol). Being rightfully pissed off about an issue and bitching about it does not mean I hate them.
2. Not all of my GM's have leaked, but many have. My GMT800 never leaked or burned a drop in 100k miles I owned it. Well, the PS lines did, but not to the point of dripping on the floor. My 2007 GMC and my 2008 Corvette have both had multiple oil leaks and the truck also leaks PS fluid from the hoses. Both had oil leaks from nearly brand new, both were fixed and both started leaking again within a few years. But I am not supposed to be pissed?
3. I never said ALL GMs leak oil. I did say this is a very common issue in the GMT900's (and the C6 Corvettes as well)and have backed that up with pointing out there are multiple TSBs for it and the complaints about it are very common. Even other members right here on this forum have had the issue in their GMT900's. You saying it is not an issue because you have not experienced it is just plain denial and pure fanboyism/apologist. GM dealer techs have even confirmed this as well.
4. I do not hate my truck or my Vette. Will I buy another GM truck? Probably, if/when they pull their heads out of their ass. I would not buy a current new GM truck because I simply do not like them. Not sure I would buy another new GM car though. I do not trust them and am not convinced they have gotten their quality up to par yet and likely wont until they can figure out how to be profitable while not sucking on the gov't tit. they are still in cost-cutting mode.
Now, did you get all that? Maybe read it again?
I'm just going to leave this right here.
I have noticed that on all the vehicles I change oil on, the ones that get low mileage, like 3 to 8k in a year tend to have wet oil pans. The ones that come in regularly for oil changes every 3 months or so with 8 to 14k miles on them are dry, except for the higher mileage ones with 150k miles or more on them. Those have seemed to have oil running down the oil pans and back side of the block. Some have drips forming and some don't.
The one 2004 Suburban that I change the oil on with conventional oil has a nice leak and runs through a qt of oil every 5k, it has 334k miles on it. The Trailblazer stays full when they bring it in around 8k and runs conventional and it is dry on the bottom with 298k miles on it.
Just changed the oil on the Mayors wifes 2011 Impala with the 3.5. It had a drip on the back of the oil pan when I pulled it onto the ramps. It was down about a qt of oil and been running synthetic in it since they got it with 45k miles on it, now has 120k. It gets it's oil changed when the OLM states lower than 5% and this time around had 7k miles on the oil.
When I had my 65 Impala and had the 396 rebuilt it got about 1,000 miles a year put on it and it had a leak from what I can tell was the rear main seal. I would figure with modern gaskets that it wouldn't be an issue on this but it was. Maybe since t didn't get ran often the seal was shrinking and didn't get wet often enough to stay swollen.
Knocking on wood, my 02 silverado has 157k on it wand the bottom of it is dry and it gets changed once a year running synthetic since new and averages anywhere from 8k to 16k a year.
Just my observation for the most part it seems that if a vehicle doesn't get used much, chances are leaks will occur more often than vehicles that get used on a daily basis.
Kind of makes me wonder how all these famous people with 150 or more collector cars far on fluid leaks in their super nice storage facilities. Like Jay Leno and Tim Allen. Wonder how many have drip pans under them?
The one 2004 Suburban that I change the oil on with conventional oil has a nice leak and runs through a qt of oil every 5k, it has 334k miles on it. The Trailblazer stays full when they bring it in around 8k and runs conventional and it is dry on the bottom with 298k miles on it.
Just changed the oil on the Mayors wifes 2011 Impala with the 3.5. It had a drip on the back of the oil pan when I pulled it onto the ramps. It was down about a qt of oil and been running synthetic in it since they got it with 45k miles on it, now has 120k. It gets it's oil changed when the OLM states lower than 5% and this time around had 7k miles on the oil.
When I had my 65 Impala and had the 396 rebuilt it got about 1,000 miles a year put on it and it had a leak from what I can tell was the rear main seal. I would figure with modern gaskets that it wouldn't be an issue on this but it was. Maybe since t didn't get ran often the seal was shrinking and didn't get wet often enough to stay swollen.
Knocking on wood, my 02 silverado has 157k on it wand the bottom of it is dry and it gets changed once a year running synthetic since new and averages anywhere from 8k to 16k a year.
Just my observation for the most part it seems that if a vehicle doesn't get used much, chances are leaks will occur more often than vehicles that get used on a daily basis.
Kind of makes me wonder how all these famous people with 150 or more collector cars far on fluid leaks in their super nice storage facilities. Like Jay Leno and Tim Allen. Wonder how many have drip pans under them?
I have noticed that on all the vehicles I change oil on, the ones that get low mileage, like 3 to 8k in a year tend to have wet oil pans. The ones that come in regularly for oil changes every 3 months or so with 8 to 14k miles on them are dry, except for the higher mileage ones with 150k miles or more on them. Those have seemed to have oil running down the oil pans and back side of the block. Some have drips forming and some don't.
The one 2004 Suburban that I change the oil on with conventional oil has a nice leak and runs through a qt of oil every 5k, it has 334k miles on it. The Trailblazer stays full when they bring it in around 8k and runs conventional and it is dry on the bottom with 298k miles on it.
Just changed the oil on the Mayors wifes 2011 Impala with the 3.5. It had a drip on the back of the oil pan when I pulled it onto the ramps. It was down about a qt of oil and been running synthetic in it since they got it with 45k miles on it, now has 120k. It gets it's oil changed when the OLM states lower than 5% and this time around had 7k miles on the oil.
When I had my 65 Impala and had the 396 rebuilt it got about 1,000 miles a year put on it and it had a leak from what I can tell was the rear main seal. I would figure with modern gaskets that it wouldn't be an issue on this but it was. Maybe since t didn't get ran often the seal was shrinking and didn't get wet often enough to stay swollen.
Knocking on wood, my 02 silverado has 157k on it wand the bottom of it is dry and it gets changed once a year running synthetic since new and averages anywhere from 8k to 16k a year.
Just my observation for the most part it seems that if a vehicle doesn't get used much, chances are leaks will occur more often than vehicles that get used on a daily basis.
Kind of makes me wonder how all these famous people with 150 or more collector cars far on fluid leaks in their super nice storage facilities. Like Jay Leno and Tim Allen. Wonder how many have drip pans under them?
That makes sense. But it doesn't explain the oil leaks when both were nearly brand new (in their their first year).
And my truck only gets about 5-6K on it per year, BUT it gets driven as a daily driver, so it has just as many heat cycles/year on it as most other vehicles on the road.
the Vette came from Alabama, so it did not sit stored very long and it too had an oil leak when nearly new. And a wet oil pan again last fall. it is dry so far this year, so we will see in the fall when I have it on a lift again. I did put a seal conditioner in, which seemed to have helped so far. So, your theory may be valid for this 2nd leak. Also, the manual trans has oil on the casing too.
I know [emoji38]A solid pipe wouldn't actually work. Just sayin'
Even 1" or 2" frac tubing wouldn't hold up to the constant flex.
Something you seem to struggle with is that there's GM's out there that don't leak, and have not leaked. You always say that it's only a matter of time until it does. I don't recall saying no GM's leak, only that mine doesn't, and haven't.All I ever heard was that it leaked
And by association all other GM's leaked. Usually when someone appears to have a hate on for a brand for something like that, it's more of a consistent problem.
My apologies for being wrong
Well, when a brand new 43K truck leaks oil in it's first year with under 5k miles on it, gets fixed, thenstarts leaking again a few years later with under 40k miles on it...and has been leaking PS fluid from the hoses for years. Yeah, I get pissed. And then last year i see oil film on the bottom of the oil pan on my 40k mile 2008 Corvette. yeah, I get pissed.
And I never said they all leak. But I did say GM has an issue with them leaking as it is a very common issue.
But, I am sure the fanboys and apologists who happen to have one that doesn't leak think none of them do. That works both ways huh?
Well, there was the power steering return line on my Blazer, but that was from off-road use and I ripped the line off.... Silly GM for not using solid steel pipes. [emoji38]
If you hate the vehicles so much, take the loss and get rid of them, and don't buy another GM
You'll be happier, less stressed, and with the money you save on oil, it should make up for depreciation [emoji38]
I'm letting it go here.
Now, it's about time to see what the Titan gets traded in for
You really do have reading comprehension issues, don't you?
And just because yours does not leak, does not mean this is not a VERY common issue. There are multiple TSB's and posts/complaints galore about this issue all over. Pull your head out of the sand and open your eyes. A GM dealer tech even told me it is a common issue that he sees all the time. He also told me that nearly ALL power steering lines leak in these trucks. Not always to the point of dripping or needing to add very often, but the hose crimps nearly always seep fluid and make the hoses wet. He quoted me new lines, then told me to not bother unless it starts leaking more severely because the new ones will most likely do the same thing within a year or 2.
but you go ahead and keep putting words in my mouth saying I said they ALL leak, while at the same you say it's not an issue just because yours doesn't....yet.
Denial runs very deep.
For the GM power steering lines, others have solved the issue by getting a local hydraulic shop to make them new lines with more/better crimping on the hoses. The remote oil filter lines on the S-series were the same way for some people, and afterwards I haven't heard of any issues. Maybe GM needs to get a new hose crimper.
