2011 TwinForce F-150 EPA figures

[mblouir]

Has anyone else (manufacturers) started exploring turbos and superchargers?

The turbocharger was invented by Swiss engineer Alfred Büchi. His patent for a turbocharger was applied for use in 1905. Diesel ships and locomotives with turbochargers began appearing in the 1920s. Semis have used them for trillions of miles over many years. European manufacturers use turbos on tiny diesel engines to achieve power and superb fuel economy numbers.

This is not some witch doctor voodoo magic hatched up by Ford as some would like to make it look.

Please keep our secrets on the down-low.

 

[Zembonez]

Baby steps....agreed. I would have liked to see more mileage, too, though. Taking into consideration it's a V6 doing what the V8s can do, it's impressive. To me (IMO) it was just hyped up more than it should have been.

At least it is a step in the right direction.

If Ford had not gone for such high performance numbers (Hey - it makes the news) they could have gone with something like a 3.0 V6 and likely built something in the 275 - 300 HP range that could get mid 20s mpg.

I think that's the next step.

 

[daddy]

Baby steps....agreed. I would have liked to see more mileage, too, though. Taking into consideration it's a V6 doing what the V8s can do, it's impressive. To me (IMO) it was just hyped up more than it should have been.

At least it is a step in the right direction.

If Ford had not gone for such high performance numbers (Hey - it makes the news) they could have gone with something like a 3.0 V6 and likely built something in the 275 - 300 HP range that could get mid 20s mpg.

I think that's the next step.

Can you imagine if they didn't kill the Ranger and shove this thing in there. Whoa!

 

[nubuilder]

Has anyone else (manufacturers) started exploring turbos and superchargers?

The turbocharger was invented by Swiss engineer Alfred Büchi. His patent for a turbocharger was applied for use in 1905. Diesel ships and locomotives with turbochargers began appearing in the 1920s. Semis have used them for trillions of miles over many years. European manufacturers use turbos on tiny diesel engines to achieve power and superb fuel economy numbers.

This is not some witch doctor voodoo magic hatched up by Ford as some would like to make it look.

I understand that they are nothing new. I just meant if anyone was exploring it, to the extent Ford did with twin turbos on a gas engine, with maybe a supercharged motor. I know GM did it on the Grand Prix from the factory.

This should definitely start some nice engine wars!!

 

[Z71_Silvy]

well mine has 3.73`s and is rted for 10400#s, 11,300 is signifigantly more.

Well...right.

But the TwinForce engine will not be getting anywhere near 16/22 with 3.73 gears...probably closer to 14/18.

And 3.73 will be the most common gear chosen.

I absolutely HATE how automakers can get away with, what is essentially lying to consumers by posting dishonest FE figures.

A 2WD regular cab truck with 3.15 gears will not get the same mileage as a 3.73 geared crew cab truck.

 

[nubuilder]

Baby steps....agreed. I would have liked to see more mileage, too, though. Taking into consideration it's a V6 doing what the V8s can do, it's impressive. To me (IMO) it was just hyped up more than it should have been.

At least it is a step in the right direction.

If Ford had not gone for such high performance numbers (Hey - it makes the news) they could have gone with something like a 3.0 V6 and likely built something in the 275 - 300 HP range that could get mid 20s mpg.

I think that's the next step.

Can you imagine if they didn't kill the Ranger and shove this thing in there. Whoa!

Throw some traction bars on there and some decent tires and you've got a great drag truck with hardly any mods!

 

[Zembonez]

I understand that they are nothing new. I just meant if anyone was exploring it, to the extent Ford did with twin turbos on a gas engine, with maybe a supercharged motor. I know GM did it on the Grand Prix from the factory.

This should definitely start some nice engine wars!!

Yeah. I didn't really think you didn't know... just being a bit of a smartass there.

 

[che22879]

Baby steps....agreed. I would have liked to see more mileage, too, though. Taking into consideration it's a V6 doing what the V8s can do, it's impressive. To me (IMO) it was just hyped up more than it should have been.

At least it is a step in the right direction.

If Ford had not gone for such high performance numbers (Hey - it makes the news) they could have gone with something like a 3.0 V6 and likely built something in the 275 - 300 HP range that could get mid 20s mpg.

I think that's the next step.

Can you imagine if they didn't kill the Ranger and shove this thing in there. Whoa!

That would have been a tire roaster! Judging by the reactions on here I think people expected the miracle engine of the century. I think its a big step in the right direction! I love the sound of a V8 but I would rather have better milage and more power any day!

 

[nubuilder]

I understand that they are nothing new. I just meant if anyone was exploring it, to the extent Ford did with twin turbos on a gas engine, with maybe a supercharged motor. I know GM did it on the Grand Prix from the factory.

This should definitely start some nice engine wars!!

Yeah. I didn't really think you didn't know... just being a bit of a smartass there.

I'll ban your butt.....shit I can't!

 

[nubuilder]

well mine has 3.73`s and is rted for 10400#s, 11,300 is signifigantly more.

Well...right.

But the TwinForce engine will not be getting anywhere near 16/22 with 3.73 gears...probably closer to 14/18.

And 3.73 will be the most common gear chosen.

I absolutely HATE how automakers can get away with, what is essentially lying to consumers by posting dishonest FE figures.

A 2WD regular cab truck with 3.15 gears will not get the same mileage as a 3.73 geared crew cab truck.

That is a valid point. It would be interesting to know what the EPA ratings are for. I'm guessing the highest gear (lowest numerical) that is offered. My truck (with 3.42's) is right on what the EPA's site says for the most part.