5.0 or EcoBoost?

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I dunno. I was raised with v8s and diesels. Guess I just accept change easier. But I have owned 4 engines with forced induction not counting diesels, so for me its just another day.

A lot of people are not very trusting of new technology though.
 

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I haven't talked to anyone that isn't impressed with the EcoBoost they're just cautious. The amount of tests and abuse Ford put the engine through were a good test, but they were just that: a test. It hasn't proven what it can do in the real-world, day in and day out for several years and hundreds of thousands of miles. That's when people will trust it. V8s have been proving their ability to reliably handle the demands and abuse of truck drivers for the last several decades. Asking them to abandon something that has time and time again proven it's durability just isn't going to happen over night.
 

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Based purely on the specs..

The EcoBoost has 5 more hp.. meh.. Big deal.. Toss-up.

The EcoBoost has 40 more lb-ft of torque at a much lower RPM than the 5.0. That should be noticeable.. Score 1 for the EB.

EB gets 1 MPG more on the 4x2 in both city and highway. I'd consider that a toss-up.

EB gets 1 MPG more in the city and 2 MPG more on the highway than the 5.0 in the 4x4 setup. I'd score that as one for the EB, especially as much as I like to travel. Over time, at current gas prices - IF you actually got the 2 MPG more on the highway - that would slowly add up..

When I started writing this, I was figuring on "get the V8.. It won't have to work as hard and should last longer." On paper, though, the EB seems to edge out the 5.0..

So, with all of that said, the decision would probably come down to how they each "felt" when I drove 'em.. :dunno:

Personally, I'm more curious about the EB's that will be showing up in the Edge and Explorer.. Give 'em 5 yrs or so and I think the EB's could be a lot more interesting.. Time will tell.. :thumbs:
 

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I haven't talked to anyone that isn't impressed with the EcoBoost they're just cautious. The amount of tests and abuse Ford put the engine through were a good test, but they were just that: a test. It hasn't proven what it can do in the real-world, day in and day out for several years and hundreds of thousands of miles. That's when people will trust it. V8s have been proving their ability to reliably handle the demands and abuse of truck drivers for the last several decades. Asking them to abandon something that has time and time again proven it's durability just isn't going to happen over night.

True but all three motors are new to the trucks this year and the 5.0 has some fancy new tech in it hat hasn't been seen in trucks. Really, v6 motors have been around for ages. Hell Ford has had a boosted v6 since the early 90's
 

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I haven't talked to anyone that isn't impressed with the EcoBoost they're just cautious. The amount of tests and abuse Ford put the engine through were a good test, but they were just that: a test. It hasn't proven what it can do in the real-world, day in and day out for several years and hundreds of thousands of miles. That's when people will trust it. V8s have been proving their ability to reliably handle the demands and abuse of truck drivers for the last several decades. Asking them to abandon something that has time and time again proven it's durability just isn't going to happen over night.

True but all three motors are new to the trucks this year and the 5.0 has some fancy new tech in it hat hasn't been seen in trucks. Really, v6 motors have been around for ages. Hell Ford has had a boosted v6 since the early 90's


But it's still a V8 at heart when it comes down to it.

Not in this application. Entirely different story.


This is my point. There is no good way to compare these two platforms yet.
 

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So a v8 is some how not new when it has vvt and dohc something Ford has never used like this but a v6 is because its turbo'd and has di? Makes no sense. A v6 has been doing work in a Ford for 15 years, and a six has heen doing work.way longer than the v8
 

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Not trying to throw fuel on the fire, but...

Dusten, most folks who buy trucks see anything not at least a V8 as being somehow inferior. Even within the V8's, "bigger's better! You got an extra few points or a whole extra liter from one engine to the next? All the better!"

It's going to take a while for folks to not see the smaller # (V6 vs V8) as somehow "not enough." Some folks will probably never think a V6 is "enough" for a truck.. Heck, a lot of folks don't think V6's are "enough" for cars.. :dunno:
 

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So a v8 is some how not new when it has vvt and dohc something Ford has never used like this but a v6 is because its turbo'd and has di? Makes no sense. A v6 has been doing work in a Ford for 15 years, and a six has heen doing work.way longer than the v8

Wut?

A new style V8 competing against a new style V6 is still a V8 versus a V6 when it boils down to it. Can a V6 become a viable substitute for the V8 engine, possibly. So far, it looks promising but it's yet to be proven factual. This is a brand new level for the V6 to try to perform at. Big trucks/SUV's hauling heavy loads is a lot different than making a G37 scream down the highway.
 

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There's nothing new in the 5.0, dual VVT and DOHC V8s have been around and proven. Forced induction on gas engines have historically been unreliable and DI is still maturing. Couple that with trying to prove a V6 can do the work of a V8 and its just a long, uphill battle. If I was in the market though I'd strongly consider one though, but I always like the new gadgets.
 

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There's nothing new in the 5.0, dual VVT and DOHC V8s have been around and proven. Forced induction on gas engines have historically been unreliable and DI is still maturing. Couple that with trying to prove a V6 can do the work of a V8 and its just a long, uphill battle. If I was in the market though I'd strongly consider one though, but I always like the new gadgets.

its new in anything domestic... Find a Ford dodge or gm with dohc and vvt on the same motor. I will concede on it being just a v6 but my point was fords new 5.0 is just as new and fancy. so the argument of fearing something holds little weight. And why is di maturing? It's Been in diesels for 16 in fords alone.
 

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