2011 TwinForce F-150 EPA figures

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Horsepower wars will soon be a thing of the past. It happened in the 70s and again in the early 90s. Facts are facts... and manufacturers are about to have to face some strict government regulations regarding fuel economy and emissions.

It will be a game changer.
 

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You do realize how insane that sounds, right? :dunno:

Yes, Mr. Clemens, please run your own steroid screening and then give me the results and we'll go with that.

To be honest? No, I don't. The test procedure that all manufactures MUST use to get their vehicles federalized is a federal law.

You'll never convince me, or likely anyone else here, that having the manufacturers test their own vehicles is the better way to objectively evaluate these vehicles.

I genuinely cannot understand why not.

My guess is that there is a book sent to the EPA on each model tested from a manufacturer. In that book there is every single test result, room temp, machine make and model, computer program in the vehicles computer, driver name, tire manufacturer, air pressure, mileage of vehicle, type of oil in the engine, etc.

Every possible piece of important information is in there showing that the test was conducted exactly the way it is to be done. There is no way an automaker could "twist" the results.

As for real world results? I expect no less than 28MPG on the highway. If my lowly Silverado can do a 33% increase on the highway to 24 (over the EPA figures) with a 4-speed, then this thing should be at 28 for the 4WD and 29 for the 2WD.
 

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You do realize how insane that sounds, right? :dunno:

Yes, Mr. Clemens, please run your own steroid screening and then give me the results and we'll go with that.

To be honest? No, I don't. The test procedure that all manufactures MUST use to get their vehicles federalized is a federal law.

You'll never convince me, or likely anyone else here, that having the manufacturers test their own vehicles is the better way to objectively evaluate these vehicles.

I genuinely cannot understand why not.

My guess is that there is a book sent to the EPA on each model tested from a manufacturer. In that book there is every single test result, room temp, machine make and model, computer program in the vehicles computer, driver name, tire manufacturer, air pressure, mileage of vehicle, type of oil in the engine, etc.

Every possible piece of important information is in there showing that the test was conducted exactly the way it is to be done. There is no way an automaker could "twist" the results.

As for real world results? I expect no less than 28MPG on the highway. If my lowly Silverado can do a 33% increase on the highway to 24 (over the EPA figures) with a 4-speed, then this thing should be at 28 for the 4WD and 29 for the 2WD.

Okay.
 

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When I first read the numbers and the slight improvement I was disappointed then it hit me 16/22 are the EXACT same numbers my Jeep is rated for. It weighs just under 5000lbs and is making way less power and torque. (290HP and 260lb-ft). Then I wasn't so disappointed anymore. It's getting pretty much what normal V6s are getting in heavy vehicles while out gunning the V8s.
 

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I think the HP numbers and the 420 lb of torque at 2500 RPM would make for a nice truck to drive...:lol:

That is the one thing that jumped out at me as being pretty impressive...:dunno:

TORQUE is what makes for a nice driving vehicle....not HP that you get only when you have it screaming at high RPM.
Most people with be at 2500 RPM a heck of a lot more of the time that at 5000 RPM.
 
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Nobody has a magic wand. The Edge is a TON more aerodynamic (and lighter), so I'd imagine the numbers would change a lot. I really doubt Ford would install a beast engine in the edge anyway... but a smaller displacement (say 2.5 liter) boosted model would be really interesting.

The Edge is getting the 2.0 TwinForce I-4.

Power figures were simply stated as "230-plus horsepower" and "250-plus pound-feet of torque."

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/01/06/2011-ford-edge-ecoboost-quick-spin-review-road-test/
 

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K well to get this back on track I was talking to a co-worker and he was just drooling over this Ecoboost engine. He wants to get a ford with it for his next truck. He really likes the fact that there is V8 power and V6 fuel economy. I could see these selling fairly well if they hold up and live up to their EPA standards.
I guess this might be discussed in this thread but I'm not going to read through the BS. One thing that ran through my mind was how they do these EPA tests. The thing with boosted engines is that they suck the gas while in boost. Could they be doing the EPA tests so that the engine is staying out of boost most of the time?
 

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