Dodge taking on Ford Raptor?

[Cowboy Cadillac]

If you saw Grande Prairies potholes...long travel suspension in a stock pickup would be a godsend

 

[daddy]

I don't understand why the big 3 doesn't take all of this R&D and money and put it towards building better standard full size pickups.

They are. It's just like racing in a way. Advancements made in these areas eventually find their way into production vehicles. If all one could engineer for were bland, everyman vehicles, advancement would take forever. Extreme vehicles allow for very progressive thinking and risk taking that just isn't going to be seen in the average production development cycle.

I can understand that, but I fail to see what components from this would be useful in an everyday pickup. Generally people buy trucks to haul and tow stuff. With these trucks, payload and towing is generally cut if half. What good does long travel suspension do for the average Joe? They may be sweet trucks, but I fail to see the point.

It's not just about suspension though. Engines, steering components, fuel pumps, seat belts, etc. are all included in the engineering process.

I hear what you are saying, but even the design methods used, not just the parts, can be learned from and utilized down the road.

Also, there is the cool factor that's needed as well. The Corvette ZR1 is far from an everyday vehicle but they make those too.

 

[RebelThunder]

I don't understand why the big 3 doesn't take all of this R&D and money and put it towards building better standard full size pickups.

They are. It's just like racing in a way. Advancements made in these areas eventually find their way into production vehicles. If all one could engineer for were bland, everyman vehicles, advancement would take forever. Extreme vehicles allow for very progressive thinking and risk taking that just isn't going to be seen in the average production development cycle.

I can understand that, but I fail to see what components from this would be useful in an everyday pickup. Generally people buy trucks to haul and tow stuff. With these trucks, payload and towing is generally cut if half. What good does long travel suspension do for the average Joe? They may be sweet trucks, but I fail to see the point.

It's not just about suspension though. Engines, steering components, fuel pumps, seat belts, etc. are all included in the engineering process.

I hear what you are saying, but even the design methods used, not just the parts, can be learned from and utilized down the road.

Also, there is the cool factor that's needed as well. The Corvette ZR1 is far from an everyday vehicle but they make those too.

I hear ya, but everyone has roads where they live to utilize the ZR1. If you don't live in the south, these trucks are basically worthless as you don't have dunes to go play in.

 

[daddy]

I don't understand why the big 3 doesn't take all of this R&D and money and put it towards building better standard full size pickups.

They are. It's just like racing in a way. Advancements made in these areas eventually find their way into production vehicles. If all one could engineer for were bland, everyman vehicles, advancement would take forever. Extreme vehicles allow for very progressive thinking and risk taking that just isn't going to be seen in the average production development cycle.

I can understand that, but I fail to see what components from this would be useful in an everyday pickup. Generally people buy trucks to haul and tow stuff. With these trucks, payload and towing is generally cut if half. What good does long travel suspension do for the average Joe? They may be sweet trucks, but I fail to see the point.

It's not just about suspension though. Engines, steering components, fuel pumps, seat belts, etc. are all included in the engineering process.

I hear what you are saying, but even the design methods used, not just the parts, can be learned from and utilized down the road.

Also, there is the cool factor that's needed as well. The Corvette ZR1 is far from an everyday vehicle but they make those too.

I hear ya, but everyone has roads where they live to utilize the ZR1. If you don't live in the south, these trucks are basically worthless as you don't have dunes to go play in.

There are plenty of places in the North those trucks could be used to have a hell of a time, at least here in Indiana there are.

 

[Alljackedup408]

now THATS what im talking about. I bet that thing will do better than 16.5 in the quarter with the 426.