New CTS-V appears to be a beast

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It looks interesting. But, I bet they're going to want north of $80k for one. :uhoh:
 

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No manual trans, and GM can't figure out how to make a dual-clutch auto. Also no AWD. These things make me sad.

That said, I will still probably test drive one and then decide whether buying it is worth getting divorced over. :D
 

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I don't miss a manual. After experiencing the DCT in the BMW, I don't see why some people seem think they "need" a manual. But, whatever. You're spending that much $$ on a car and you want it a certain way, you should be able to get it that way. (Nevermind that sometimes the "autos" are sometimes quicker than the manuals. :lol: :jester:)

Regardless of that, GM does need to make some major advancements in their transmissions. If they want to compete with BMW, Mercedes, etc., they need to step up their game in a big way.

The more I've driven the CVT in the Accord, the more I think all CVTs should operate that way. Give it some gas, it tightens up the ratios, like a regular automatic would do in a downshift, and it goes. Well, it goes as much as 180-something hp "goes." :lol:

The more I've driven the DCT in the BMW, the more I know I'll miss that when I get a car that doesn't have one.

Can Justin work wonders with the tuning on the GM transmissions? Sure! But, GM should tune those SOBs better from the factory to be a lot less sluggish, especially if they want to claim they're as good as BMW, Mercedes, Audi, etc.

Speaking of GM tuning, they need to MASSIVELY work on their traction / stability control systems, too! Most of the time when the little light blinks on the dash of the BMW, I don't really notice that it has stepped in. It's more like a gentle "let me tighten that corner up for you a little," not "HOLD on there! Let me slow you the fWONk down and TELL you you were goin' too fast, fokker!" :lol:

When the ATS-V Coupe comes out, I'll probably go drive one. Then, I'll probably go drive an M4 and see how much GM still needs to step up their game. We'll see if either ever ends up in my garage, though. :dunno: :lol:
 

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No manual trans, and GM can't figure out how to make a dual-clutch auto. Also no AWD. These things make me sad.

That said, I will still probably test drive one and then decide whether buying it is worth getting divorced over. :D

Yeah WTF? :confused:

I would think a AWD car would sell well for GM. But I'm not the geniuses that they are :rolleyes: :lol:
 

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I don't miss a manual. After experiencing the DCT in the BMW, I don't see why some people seem think they "need" a manual. But, whatever. You're spending that much $$ on a car and you want it a certain way, you should be able to get it that way. (Nevermind that sometimes the "autos" are sometimes quicker than the manuals. :lol: :jester:)

That's why i mentioned the lack of EITHER a manual or a dual clutch. I would be happy with either one. I'm just all done with torque converters in performance cars. There's no reason for them with the current technology. Given that GM can't make a trans that shifts reasonably if it has more than 4 gears, I guess I'm not surprised that they find dual clutch technology intimidating.
 

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