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A Tacoma maybe, a Tundra no. I have a 95.5 Tacoma and it's really a good little truck, and I expect that it will last me another 5 years, then I just might make dedicated trail rig out of it.
 

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Nice!!! There ya go. Now we just need you to go down to the local toy store and "test" drive one and then you'll be hooked.

You know...that would probably be true...because the Tundra has one of the best power trains on the market. Sure the early engines had some crankshaft issues...but I believe this was a brand new engine for Toyota...so it is understandable.

-HOWEVER-

What amazes me...is the frame and tailgate issues with the Tundra. In my opinion, those issues are unacceptable for a company as focused as Toyota. They can really bang out some great products...like the Venza which I think is fantastic looking and very efficient...averaging 3 MORE MPG than the Ford Edge. So it puzzles me as to why these issues were not fixed in the design process.

I truly hope that Toyota addresses the frame, tailgate, and interior of the next Tundra. Once those issues are fixed, I think the Tundra will be a sales smash.
 

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I know the tailgate issue was fixed...but I don't know what you mean about the frame? Are you talking about the rusting or that it's not fully boxed? The rusting issue was on the 1st Gen Tundra which confuses me because my 2000 didn't have a problem and I live in SALT lake city....our roads are white in winter and not because it snowed.

As for the interior I'm a bit worried on how well it will hold up too, but it's 10 times quiter than my old one and assembled a lot better.
 

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I know the tailgate issue was fixed...but I don't know what you mean about the frame? Are you talking about the rusting or that it's not fully boxed? The rusting issue was on the 1st Gen Tundra which confuses me because my 2000 didn't have a problem and I live in SALT lake city....our roads are white in winter and not because it snowed.

As for the interior I'm a bit worried on how well it will hold up too, but it's 10 times quiter than my old one and assembled a lot better.

The frame issue is how bad it flexes. Be advised that the two video links posted below were paid for and produced by Ford...so keep that in the back of your head. Keeping that in mind, I still think Toyota has some work to do with the Tundra's frames. In the second video, the Tundra starts at 1:00.

CLICK!

Click too!

As for the interior, I have no doubt that it is built very well. However, I think the interior materials could be better and the overall design of the interior needs to be toned down...a little more conservative...mor like the Venza interior.
 

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Oh...the famous flexing videos. I agree that Toyota would have been better off going with a FBF but I figure there thought process was "I know how to beat the best 1/2 tons out there...lets take a 3/4 ton and wrap it in a 1/2 ton package". Wrong or right, but if you were to take the big 3's 3/4 tons down the same roads I'm guessing the flexing would be the same or worse.

Either way, it's a truck I know it's going to ride like a truck on rough roads. But I do know that when 1 threw 2K+ of floor slate into the back of the bed the ride was smooth as silk. LOL.
 

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Oh...the famous flexing videos. I agree that Toyota would have been better off going with a FBF but I figure there thought process was "I know how to beat the best 1/2 tons out there...lets take a 3/4 ton and wrap it in a 1/2 ton package". Wrong or right, but if you were to take the big 3's 3/4 tons down the same roads I'm guessing the flexing would be the same or worse.

Either way, it's a truck I know it's going to ride like a truck on rough roads. But I do know that when 1 threw 2K+ of floor slate into the back of the bed the ride was smooth as silk. LOL.

If that was the case...which it could have been, then Toyota's PR department dropped the ball big time. Those videos are famous on the internet...and Toyota should have came back with something.
 
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Oh...the famous flexing videos. I agree that Toyota would have been better off going with a FBF but I figure there thought process was "I know how to beat the best 1/2 tons out there...lets take a 3/4 ton and wrap it in a 1/2 ton package". Wrong or right, but if you were to take the big 3's 3/4 tons down the same roads I'm guessing the flexing would be the same or worse.

Either way, it's a truck I know it's going to ride like a truck on rough roads. But I do know that when 1 threw 2K+ of floor slate into the back of the bed the ride was smooth as silk. LOL.

Then why the 1/2 ton payload and tow ratings?
 

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