Oil is ‘the fuel of the past,’ says President Obama

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And here's that "2% of the world's oil" put into perspective...

http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/willis-report/blog/2012/02/27/obamas-2-lie

Basically, we probably have enough oil to sustain us until we have a colony on at least Mars, if not longer (the article says 250 years, I would guess 150-200, depending on how the consumption rate changes). We have plenty of time to come up with a good, VIABLE alternative to oil as fuel.


On the ethanol side, as someone who was raised on a corn farm (irrigated), I think ethanol (from corn) is the biggest waste of potable water there is. The amount of water needed to grow (irrigated, not rain-fed) the corn and then turn it in to ethanol is, to me, outrageous. I've looked into several studies using algae and other alternative ethanol sources, and they blow corn out of the water (pun intended). Basically, corn is an expensive, resource-consuming way to produce fuel. BUT, its what we have, and it looks good to environMENTALists. :dunno:

And you can cram for a test as well but it's better to learn while in class and study to actually retain the information. There is nothing wrong with working on alternative solutions right now, as long as they make fiscal sense.

Now, before anyone goes off on how much things currently cost, fiscal sense is something that should be evaluated over a period of time, not right at the start when the initial costs are high. Everything new costs.
 

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And here's that "2% of the world's oil" put into perspective...

http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/willis-report/blog/2012/02/27/obamas-2-lie

Basically, we probably have enough oil to sustain us until we have a colony on at least Mars, if not longer (the article says 250 years, I would guess 150-200, depending on how the consumption rate changes). We have plenty of time to come up with a good, VIABLE alternative to oil as fuel.


On the ethanol side, as someone who was raised on a corn farm (irrigated), I think ethanol (from corn) is the biggest waste of potable water there is. The amount of water needed to grow (irrigated, not rain-fed) the corn and then turn it in to ethanol is, to me, outrageous. I've looked into several studies using algae and other alternative ethanol sources, and they blow corn out of the water (pun intended). Basically, corn is an expensive, resource-consuming way to produce fuel. BUT, its what we have, and it looks good to environMENTALists. :dunno:

And you can cram for a test as well but it's better to learn while in class and study to actually retain the information. There is nothing wrong with working on alternative solutions right now, as long as they make fiscal sense.

Now, before anyone goes off on how much things currently cost, fiscal sense is something that should be evaluated over a period of time, not right at the start when the initial costs are high. Everything new costs.

Oh, I agree completely. I was just pointing out that O's numbers were a bit misleading.

I'm all for alternative ways for energy. Hell, just about any new technology is interesting to me, if it works and makes some kind of sense, or is fun.

Also, I was pointing out we have a lot of time to get a replacement, and get it done right. Jumping on the current alternatives and pushing them as the best and only alterative/solution, well, thats just stupid.
 

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And here's that "2% of the world's oil" put into perspective...

http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/willis-report/blog/2012/02/27/obamas-2-lie

Basically, we probably have enough oil to sustain us until we have a colony on at least Mars, if not longer (the article says 250 years, I would guess 150-200, depending on how the consumption rate changes). We have plenty of time to come up with a good, VIABLE alternative to oil as fuel.


On the ethanol side, as someone who was raised on a corn farm (irrigated), I think ethanol (from corn) is the biggest waste of potable water there is. The amount of water needed to grow (irrigated, not rain-fed) the corn and then turn it in to ethanol is, to me, outrageous. I've looked into several studies using algae and other alternative ethanol sources, and they blow corn out of the water (pun intended). Basically, corn is an expensive, resource-consuming way to produce fuel. BUT, its what we have, and it looks good to environMENTALists. :dunno:

And you can cram for a test as well but it's better to learn while in class and study to actually retain the information. There is nothing wrong with working on alternative solutions right now, as long as they make fiscal sense.

Now, before anyone goes off on how much things currently cost, fiscal sense is something that should be evaluated over a period of time, not right at the start when the initial costs are high. Everything new costs.

Oh, I agree completely. I was just pointing out that O's numbers were a bit misleading.

I'm all for alternative ways for energy. Hell, just about any new technology is interesting to me, if it works and makes some kind of sense, or is fun.

Also, I was pointing out we have a lot of time to get a replacement, and get it done right. Jumping on the current alternatives and pushing them as the best and only alterative/solution, well, thats just stupid.

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