GM Halts Chevy Volt Production Because Sales Suck

[daddy]

Why is it upon GM to run a dealer's business? Would it be nice for consumers, sure. Is it unethical to allow a retailer to sell their own purchased inventory at whatever price they choose, no.

Because the dealers aren't just independent businesses, they're franchises. The franchise organization exerts a lot of control over how a franchise can be operated.

GM is dumb for sharing money with the franchises then if they are required to run the damn thing.

You just sound like you are pissed because this might put a car you want out of your financial reach. Those cars with the premiums, guess what, they still sold. If they didn't, the price came back down. That's how it works.

Would you have been as okay with them setting prices had GM stepped in and told dealers they couldn't cut prices back in '08-'09 and forced all of the dealerships to go under? I mean, GM wouldn't want to devalue their product so as the franchiser they should have stepped in, right? I mean, it's their business to run, not the guy with the money invested and the guy with the employees, right?

I haven't owned a car in more than a decade T, and have no use for one, so let's call that part of your response null & void, shall we?

My only objection is, like Jim's, to price gouging.

What does the vehicle type have to do with anything?

 

[Zembonez]

Everything sold is priced based on supply and demand. You think Apple doesn't pile a ton of profit into a 500 dollar iPad? Demand is high, so they keep the prices high. I'm sure more than a few were sold for a lot more than that when they first came out. It's the same if you are fWONking selling bullets or dildos.

If you have 3 dildos and 200 people want one, the price goes up. If you have 200 dildos and 3 people want one, they get really cheap.

Last time I looked we lived in a free country with items selling in a free market. Nobody has any fWONking business telling us what we can charge for anything and nobody is forced to buy our shit..

 

[daddy]

Everything sold is priced based on supply and demand. You think Apple doesn't pile a ton of profit into a 500 dollar iPad? Demand is high, so they keep the prices high. It's the same if you are fWONking selling bullets or dildos.

If you have 3 dildos and 200 people want one, the price goes up. If you have 200 dildos and 3 people want one, they get really cheap.

Last time I looked we lived in a free country with items selling in a free market. Nobody has any fWONking business telling us what we can charge for anything.

Terrible analogy, Jim.

They could always just share. On the flip side, some chicks may be into stuffing. You never know. You might want to stick with cereal or something next time.

 

[Zembonez]

 

[CJ Hungus]

Everything sold is priced based on supply and demand. You think Apple doesn't pile a ton of profit into a 500 dollar iPad? Demand is high, so they keep the prices high. It's the same if you are fWONking selling bullets or dildos.

If you have 3 dildos and 200 people want one, the price goes up. If you have 200 dildos and 3 people want one, they get really cheap.

Last time I looked we lived in a free country with items selling in a free market. Nobody has any fWONking business telling us what we can charge for anything.

Terrible analogy, Jim.

They could always just share. On the flip side, some chicks may be into stuffing. You never know. You might want to stick with cereal or something next time.

I thought it was pretty good, I never thought of it that way but it totally makes perrrrrrrrrrrrfect sense now.

 

[That Crazy Squirrel]

Why is it upon GM to run a dealer's business? Would it be nice for consumers, sure. Is it unethical to allow a retailer to sell their own purchased inventory at whatever price they choose, no.

Because the dealers aren't just independent businesses, they're franchises. The franchise organization exerts a lot of control over how a franchise can be operated.

GM is dumb for sharing money with the franchises then if they are required to run the damn thing.

You just sound like you are pissed because this might put a car you want out of your financial reach. Those cars with the premiums, guess what, they still sold. If they didn't, the price came back down. That's how it works.

Would you have been as okay with them setting prices had GM stepped in and told dealers they couldn't cut prices back in '08-'09 and forced all of the dealerships to go under? I mean, GM wouldn't want to devalue their product so as the franchiser they should have stepped in, right? I mean, it's their business to run, not the guy with the money invested and the guy with the employees, right?

I haven't owned a car in more than a decade T, and have no use for one, so let's call that part of your response null & void, shall we?

My only objection is, like Jim's, to price gouging.

What does the vehicle type have to do with anything?

Beats me. You're the one who came up with the idea I was pissed because I couldn't buy a car.

 

[onac255]

Everything sold is priced based on supply and demand. You think Apple doesn't pile a ton of profit into a 500 dollar iPad? Demand is high, so they keep the prices high. It's the same if you are fWONking selling bullets or dildos.

If you have 3 dildos and 200 people want one, the price goes up. If you have 200 dildos and 3 people want one, they get really cheap.

Last time I looked we lived in a free country with items selling in a free market. Nobody has any fWONking business telling us what we can charge for anything.

Terrible analogy, Jim.

They could always just share. On the flip side, some chicks may be into stuffing. You never know. You might want to stick with cereal or something next time.

Bullets and Dildos huh Jim...hmmm...

 

[daddy]

Why is it upon GM to run a dealer's business? Would it be nice for consumers, sure. Is it unethical to allow a retailer to sell their own purchased inventory at whatever price they choose, no.

Because the dealers aren't just independent businesses, they're franchises. The franchise organization exerts a lot of control over how a franchise can be operated.

GM is dumb for sharing money with the franchises then if they are required to run the damn thing.

You just sound like you are pissed because this might put a car you want out of your financial reach. Those cars with the premiums, guess what, they still sold. If they didn't, the price came back down. That's how it works.

Would you have been as okay with them setting prices had GM stepped in and told dealers they couldn't cut prices back in '08-'09 and forced all of the dealerships to go under? I mean, GM wouldn't want to devalue their product so as the franchiser they should have stepped in, right? I mean, it's their business to run, not the guy with the money invested and the guy with the employees, right?

I haven't owned a car in more than a decade T, and have no use for one, so let's call that part of your response null & void, shall we?

My only objection is, like Jim's, to price gouging.

What does he vehicle type have to do with anything?

Beats me. You're the one who came up with the idea I was pissed because I couldn't buy a car.

Jesus, Bernie, I said car, I meant any vehicle. You know that.

That's where a lot of what you are saying sounds like it is coming from, that's all. True or not, that's what it sounds like.

If you sold HAM radio equipment would you be okay with being told what you could sell it for?

 

[That Crazy Squirrel]

Why is it upon GM to run a dealer's business? Would it be nice for consumers, sure. Is it unethical to allow a retailer to sell their own purchased inventory at whatever price they choose, no.

Because the dealers aren't just independent businesses, they're franchises. The franchise organization exerts a lot of control over how a franchise can be operated.

GM is dumb for sharing money with the franchises then if they are required to run the damn thing.

You just sound like you are pissed because this might put a car you want out of your financial reach. Those cars with the premiums, guess what, they still sold. If they didn't, the price came back down. That's how it works.

Would you have been as okay with them setting prices had GM stepped in and told dealers they couldn't cut prices back in '08-'09 and forced all of the dealerships to go under? I mean, GM wouldn't want to devalue their product so as the franchiser they should have stepped in, right? I mean, it's their business to run, not the guy with the money invested and the guy with the employees, right?

I haven't owned a car in more than a decade T, and have no use for one, so let's call that part of your response null & void, shall we?

My only objection is, like Jim's, to price gouging.

What does he vehicle type have to do with anything?

Beats me. You're the one who came up with the idea I was pissed because I couldn't buy a car.

Jesus, Bernie, I said car, I meant any vehicle. You know that.

That's where a lot of what you are saying sounds like it is coming from, that's all. True or not, that's what it sounds like.

If you sold HAM radio equipment would you be okay with being told what you could sell it for?

If I was a franchised dealer and told I couldn't sell it for more than the MSRP? Yes, I'd be fine with that. Either there'd be enough profit margin built into the system to satisfy me or, if there wasn't, I'd get out of the franchise and sell something else.

See, in my opinion, the rules all change a bit when you sign that franchise agreement.

 

[daddy]

Why is it upon GM to run a dealer's business? Would it be nice for consumers, sure. Is it unethical to allow a retailer to sell their own purchased inventory at whatever price they choose, no.

Because the dealers aren't just independent businesses, they're franchises. The franchise organization exerts a lot of control over how a franchise can be operated.

GM is dumb for sharing money with the franchises then if they are required to run the damn thing.

You just sound like you are pissed because this might put a car you want out of your financial reach. Those cars with the premiums, guess what, they still sold. If they didn't, the price came back down. That's how it works.

Would you have been as okay with them setting prices had GM stepped in and told dealers they couldn't cut prices back in '08-'09 and forced all of the dealerships to go under? I mean, GM wouldn't want to devalue their product so as the franchiser they should have stepped in, right? I mean, it's their business to run, not the guy with the money invested and the guy with the employees, right?

I haven't owned a car in more than a decade T, and have no use for one, so let's call that part of your response null & void, shall we?

My only objection is, like Jim's, to price gouging.

What does he vehicle type have to do with anything?

Beats me. You're the one who came up with the idea I was pissed because I couldn't buy a car.

Jesus, Bernie, I said car, I meant any vehicle. You know that.

That's where a lot of what you are saying sounds like it is coming from, that's all. True or not, that's what it sounds like.

If you sold HAM radio equipment would you be okay with being told what you could sell it for?

If I was a franchised dealer and told I couldn't sell it for more than the MSRP? Yes, I'd be fine with that. Either there'd be enough profit margin built into the system to satisfy me or, if there wasn't, I'd get out of the franchise and sell something else.

See, in my opinion, the rules all change a bit when you sign that franchise agreement.

But their franchise agreement clearly doesn't say what you wish it said. Your argument is moot unless you can show me the max price clause in the franchisee's contract. You are talking about your preference, not the law as it pertains to the contracts between franchiser and franchisee in this particular case.

If that clause exists, party on.