Custom Tune Clarification

[bubbatrucklover]

Bubba... You need to go talk to a couple...or more... "GOOD" exhaust shops...
People all over the country are running long tubes, TRUE DUALS and 4WD.

Seriously... if I wasn't going long tubes... I would just maybe put a different muffler on it, and save the money I would have wasted on shorties...
Unless I just wanted them for the looks...
Just about everything I have ever read about Shorties say that there is VERY LITTLE performance increase over the stock manifolds.

Unless you just want the "LOOK" of headers.... you need to seriously look at long tubes and a "GOOD" muffler shop to install an "X" pipe and true duals to get the most benefit out of them.

With Shorties... it is mostly "ALL SHOW" and "NO GO"...

Lt's to True Duals with an X pipe.

Yeah I was talking with a customer at work last night who rods shit out and he reiterated what Ya'll are saying that shorties are basically "fancy" direct swaps for OEM manifolds. I didn't know. Looking at them again I see what Ya'll are saying.

I think were some of my confusion is/was coming from on the piping is that some people are using "crossover" and "X" in the same sentence. When they are ACTUALLY meaning crossover aka "Y" pipe.

When you use a crossover aren't you just taking headers and running them into a single muffler then back out to dual tail pieces.

I'm just used to "old school" where you throw on a set of headers with a pair of mufflers and run them strait back.

Not being as tech savy as Ya'll my question is. Is the reason I am having a hard time finding applications for my year is that it moves the cats there for not being "compliant" and or is strait back restricted by the transfer case or gas tank location?

If it already was asked and answered sorry. I just woke up and the caffeine hasn't kicked in yet.

 

[CJ Hungus]

Bubba... You need to go talk to a couple...or more... "GOOD" exhaust shops...
People all over the country are running long tubes, TRUE DUALS and 4WD.

Seriously... if I wasn't going long tubes... I would just maybe put a different muffler on it, and save the money I would have wasted on shorties...
Unless I just wanted them for the looks...
Just about everything I have ever read about Shorties say that there is VERY LITTLE performance increase over the stock manifolds.

Unless you just want the "LOOK" of headers.... you need to seriously look at long tubes and a "GOOD" muffler shop to install an "X" pipe and true duals to get the most benefit out of them.

With Shorties... it is mostly "ALL SHOW" and "NO GO"...

Lt's to True Duals with an X pipe.

Yeah I was talking with a customer at work last night who rods shit out and he reiterated what Ya'll are saying that shorties are basically "fancy" direct swaps for OEM manifolds. I didn't know. Looking at them again I see what Ya'll are saying.

I think were some of my confusion is/was coming from on the piping is that some people are using "crossover" and "X" in the same sentence. When they are ACTUALLY meaning crossover aka "Y" pipe.

When you use a crossover aren't you just taking headers and running them into a single muffler then back out to dual tail pieces.

I'm just used to "old school" where you throw on a set of headers with a pair of mufflers and run them strait back.

Not being as tech savy as Ya'll my question is. Is the reason I am having a hard time finding applications for my year is that it moves the cats there for not being "compliant" and or is strait back restricted by the transfer case or gas tank location?

If it already was asked and answered sorry. I just woke up and the caffeine hasn't kicked in yet.

Correct, you cannot bring the pipes straight back from the headers because the gas tank is on the drivers side and will not allow it. That is why people use a "crossover pipe" (which does not necessarily merge) to get both pipes to the passengers side.
If you want, you can run the ORY (Off Road Y into a 3 inch single exhaust, then do a single in/dual out muffler to get the dual tips at the back.
It's all preference. I have my single exhaust dumped right before the bumper.

 

[Texas Jim]

The CROSSOVER is usually meant to be the EXTRA PIECE of pipe to bring the exhaust from the drivers side over to the passengers side...'cause the gas tank is in the way to run it straight back...

The "Y" pipe is used any where that you need to take two outlets... like from the two header pipes... and run both of them into one inlet... like into a muffler...
OR... take the outlet from a muffler and split it into two pipes.. like going from the muffler back to a dual exhaust...
That is usually called a CAT BACK or AXLE BACK exhaust, depending on where you put the "Y" pipe..

The "X" pipe is put into the exhaust system "BEFORE" the muffler to equalize the exhaust pressure in the two pipes.

 

[bubbatrucklover]

What would be REALLY helpful, is if someone took the time to right out a guide to exhausts added some pictures and the head clowns would make it a sticky.


Oh wait................

http://www.truckmodcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10140

as long as I have been on forums and sometimes I STILL act like a fwonkin' newb.

 

[bubbatrucklover]

Correct, you cannot bring the pipes straight back from the headers because the gas tank is on the drivers side and will not allow it. That is why people use a "crossover pipe" (which does not necessarily merge) to get both pipes to the passengers side.
If you want, you can run the ORY (Off Road Y into a 3 inch single exhaust, then do a single in/dual out muffler to get the dual tips at the back.
It's all preference. I have my single exhaust dumped right before the bumper.

The CROSSOVER is usually meant to be the EXTRA PIECE of pipe to bring the exhaust from the drivers side over to the passengers side...'cause the gas tank is in the way to run it straight back...

The "Y" pipe is used any where that you need to take two outlets... like from the two header pipes... and run both of them into one inlet... like into a muffler...
OR... take the outlet from a muffler and split it into two pipes.. like going from the muffler back to a dual exhaust...
That is usually called a CAT BACK or AXLE BACK exhaust, depending on where you put the "Y" pipe..

The "X" pipe is put into the exhaust system "BEFORE" the muffler to equalize the exhaust pressure in the two pipes.

That's what the current set up is.