Coolant fluid change

[rickp]

I see what you did there.

The product name is in the 1st post.
DEI Radiator Relief. and I'm only doing what the manufacturer rep suggested.

Sorry guys if some of the questions are too elementary for some. I'm just starting out in this.

R.

The "DEI Radiator Relief" is just a supplement to the actual COOLANT....
I hope you know what you are doing...

Personally, I wouldn't use anything in my cooling system but coolant.
Manufactures have spent millions and millions of dollars and about 100 years, to perfect and VALIDATE the proper coolant for your automotive engine.

If you use something else... "YOU" are doing the testing and validating...

Just my opinion...

TexasJim,
you're right, the solution is 75% to 25% distilled water to Coolant. Also, I read good review about this product, otherwise I wouln't be doing this.



No, they don't sell it.

So you would not use this product? If so why not?

R.

 

[PenguinLTZ]

I see what you did there.

No they dont sell it.

So you would not use this product? If so why not?

R.

You need to tell us why you are using it, and what else you are doing to the cooling system. Are you using new coolant?

I have tried the "Water Wetters" and other products like the one you are using. They don't work, at least in the 4 different motorcycles I have tried them in.

All my machines were newer, and in perfect condition. They ran a little hot on summer days in the city, or on the trail. So I tried these products.

They don't work for me.

Anything that then claims you need to add yet another product, such as a lubricant, is definitely out.

My vehicles have gone 100s of thousands of miles on 50/50 mix, and rarely do I even change a water pump.

 

[Zembonez]

Coolant has plenty of lubricating properties in it. The pump will be fine. I think adding anything else to the cooling system is risky at best.

Using the stuff I'm using, the manufacturer is telling me its not a bad idea to add a lube for the pump

Well... no sense in keeping us in suspense. WTF are you using?

Every major antifreeze/coolant manufacturer presents a product that is 100% water pump friendly from the start. Why would you use something that was not? I know some people use "water wetters" in overboosted racing engines... but there are few real uses for it on the street unless you are running something radical.

Clue us in.

The product name is in the 1st post. DEI Radiator Relief. and I'm only doing what the manufacturer rep suggested.

Sorry guys if some of the questions are too elementary for some. I'm just starting out in this.

R.

It's actually a good product (as water wetters go). Problem is that it only is effective in pure water. Once you introduce glycol to the mix, it becomes ineffective. I was just wondering what you were mixing it in.

Running pure water might work in a race engine, but it's not something you can do to a street engine without inducing a ton of corrosion. If you are running pure water as coolant (which is the best heat conductor), it would be advisable to add a water pump lubricant additive... but you have zero cold weather or corrosion protection.

We aren't busting your chops here... just trying to get enough clues to answer what you are asking correctly.

 

[txab]

No "lubricant additives" are needed. Save your cash.

 

[Black02Silverado]

The DEI stuff is made more for the off road racing environment IMO. Keep you coolant system fresh and clean with a 50/50 mix and it will serve you well.

 

[rickp]

Hey guys,
Again thank for helping out with this. No worries though I got very thick skin.

Corrosion was my concern too, so I asked about it and the answer I got was that DEI has corrosion inhibitors. He also said the key was to use distilled water since its free of chemicals and minerals that can cause some problems in the long run.

Someone mentioned this was more for off road vehicles. Can you explain that?

I know companies can make all kinds of claims about what their product can and cant do and thats the reason I was hoping to talk to guys without a conflict of interest if you know what I mean.

Again guys thanks a lot

 

[Texas Jim]

A couple of questions...
What kind of engine are you planning on putting it in ??
Is this a daily driver?
Why do you think you need it at all?
Is the engine running hot now?

It CAN NOT lower the temps any lower than your thermostat temp.
If you have a 190 thermostat... it will run at least at 190, no matter what kind of additive you put in it.

Most of the additives I have heard of, lose their effectiveness if mixed with anti freeze / coolant.
They work best if running just water... but running just water brings up another bunch of problems.

 

[Zembonez]

By off road, I believe he meant racing engines. Tests I have seen using the DEI stuff claim lower cylinder head temps when using the product with water only. Water is somewhat much more efficient (by itself) than glycol coolant already, but it lacks the properties of coolant that protect water pumps and limit corrosion. It doesn't work well in a daily driver.

I haven't seen anybody using water wetters for a street vehicle. They are much more suited for race engines that require additional cooling and are drained often.

Engines are designed to handle a certain amount of heat. In fact, they depend on it for proper operation. A properly functional cooling system is all that most any street vehicle needs... even those with blowers or ultra high compression.

What are you trying to achieve?

 

[rickp]

A couple of questions...
What kind of engine are you planning on putting it in ??
Is this a daily driver?
Why do you think you need it at all?
Is the engine running hot now?

It CAN NOT lower the temps any lower than your thermostat temp.
If you have a 190 thermostat... it will run at least at 190, no matter what kind of additive you put in it.

Most of the additives I have heard of, lose their effectiveness if mixed with anti freeze / coolant.
They work best if running just water... but running just water brings up another bunch of problems.

1. I'm putting it in a 02 Tahoe LT with a 5.3L flex fuel.
2. yes its a daily driver.
3. No specific reason to be honest, I've read and heard its a good product so I wanted to give it a try. If I can drop my temps by even just a little bit, maybe it will run a bit more efficient. Again, just trying something new. But with that said I still want to do my due diligence before hand as much as I can.
4. Engine is running fine.

I did not know about the thermostat. Is there an upgrade for that to help run things more efficiently?

I did hear about the mixing of additives and mixing with antifreeze. I was planning on flushing the system.

I spoke to the rep of DEI and he mentioned the corrosion inhibitors etc etc... He also mentioned using distilled water since it doesn't have chemicals and minerals. It keeps corrosion down even more.

thanks

 

[PenguinLTZ]

Do not change that Taboe's thermostat to a different opening temp. Ever. A cooler running engine will not be more efficient in that particular vehicle. This product will not make that engine more efficient