All Hail the Haul Master. Ram 3500 HD to see 30,000lb towing capacity in 2013 model.

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At what point do the manufacturers realize that there are other safety factors to consider in the "tow wars"? :willy:

Just because they can build a vehicle that you can physically hook a 30k lb trailer up to and it will pull it without bending/breaking something, that doesn't make it safe! When the load being hauled is 5-6 times the weight of the tow vehicle, physics come into play regarding steering and stopping, not just gaining forward momentum. At some point, folks need to realize that they need to properly match their tow vehicle to their load. If you are pulling 30k, you need a medium to heavy duty TRUCK......not a pickup.

I agree with your argument but what do you think happens with a semi tractor only being 14k and pulling a total weight of up to 90k....

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The semi tractor has multiple axles and a long wheelbase to distribute the load over, along with air brakes and other features which help it handle stopping and maneuvering. In addition, the drivers require special training and licenses (can't be too tough though, I've had one), which, in theory, teach them the special driving skills to handle the heavy loads. I think giving too many idiots access to a vehicle which tells them they CAN tow 30k whether or not they should just puts everyone else on the road at risk.

Im sorry but even with all that they cannot stop or do much of anything when traveling at highway speeds.

I lost my last two semi trucks in accidents that were not caused by my drivers. and let me tell you 90,000 pounds is going to do whatever the **** it's going to do at those speeds.

It is just a calculated risk. That is why commercial insurance is a whole 'nother ball game. They allow the things to be on the road because the risk is low compared to the money that the industry generates and honestly there is no better alternative right now to ship things across the country. The only thing I think is valid is the special training you need to get a CDL. That is the only thing keeping us safe and usually it is the many other "idiots" on the road with normal commuter cars that cause the problem.

Semi tractors are not properly matched to the loads they tow. So should dodge not build this? Should Barrett not build the fucking awesome .50 just because some dumbass doesn't have a proper backstop and kills someone or causes damage?

See what I am getting at? I agree with you but you are focusing on the wrong thing the truck itself and that isn't the issue. The issue is the retards that are out on the road driving around every day. And I think the person likely to be driving one of these mega hauler dodge trucks has a higher chance of being less of an idiot than your average "commuter". Don't get me wrong I am not saying an idiot won't be behind the wheel of one of these but it is less likely than some retard behind the wheel of light commuter car.

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Won't you be required to have a CDL for this since its over 26k lbs combined?

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Won't you be required to have a CDL for this since its over 26k lbs combined?

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That would be correct I believe

If it is over 26k single you need a class B. but you need a class A to haul anything over 10k. A lot of guys tow out of class when they haul a 14k gooseneck trailer with a one ton pickup.


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