MustangDaily:2015 Ford Mustang to get 2.3-liter EcoBoost 4-cylinder???

[Darth Bama]

all the renderings ive seen are so damn ugly.
stop rendering it to look like a european car!
sure, its going to be a global car, but that doesnt mean it cant look american.

there are only a few things that will make me lose respect for the mustang.
IRS
and not looking like a mustang.

i understand they cant all look the same, but over the years, hell since its been brought into production, the vast majority of them you can tell are mustangs. few years here and there it has strayed from that. which i wasnt a fan of.

You sound like every typical Mustang fan anytime there's a change in the bodystyle. I got news for ya, it's most likely the next Mustang WILL HAVE INDEPENDENT REAR SUSPENSION. So you may wanna go ahead and forget all respect. The Mustang no longer needs truck axles in the ass end anymore...

What should Ford do? Build a foxbody and call it a 2015? Would that be "mustangy" enough?

 

[06fordfx4]

I loved most of the body style changes. Very few I didn't like.

I don't like the fact that everyone thinks it will look like a European car. The mustang is an American icon. Not a European vehicle.

As for the IRS, it doesn't need it. A stock mustang GT holds its own and is on par with a much more expensive BMW M3. So please, tell me why it needs IRS. Ford has done wonders with the rear suspension setup. No need to change what's working. And you can't get any better than how it is now for the drag strip. Handles more power and torque.

 

[Darth Bama]

I loved most of the body style changes. Very few I didn't like.

I don't like the fact that everyone thinks it will look like a European car. The mustang is an American icon. Not a European vehicle.

As for the IRS, it doesn't need it. A stock mustang GT holds its own and is on par with a much more expensive BMW M3. So please, tell me why it needs IRS. Ford has done wonders with the rear suspension setup. No need to change what's working. And you can't get any better than how it is now for the drag strip. Handles more power and torque.

Holding it's own with a M3? It's apparent you've never driven either car. I've driven an older M3 and a 2011 Mustang GT. Even the older M3 was far more nimble then the brand new Mustang. Yes, the current Mustang does a nice job at handling compared to Mustangs of the past, but it still lacks in the handling dept. and will continue to do so with a solid axle rear end. I'll leave the IRS debate at this, I'll be surprised if the next Mustang doesn't have IRS. Ford tested it before the current Mustang and opted with a solid axle again. I don't see anything that would stop them from pulling the trigger on it for the next generation Stang.

As far as exterior styling, I don't think the renderings we've seen so far are that far of a stretch from reality. I simply don't understand what a "purist" would think the next Mustang should look like? I don't see a totally European car like I guess you're seeing. It still has the overall lines of a Mustang. The sides look like a Mustangs, the rear end resembles something of a modern 70's Stang. I think most people see that Aston Martin looking grille and scream, "oh it's so Euro". I think the renderings represent what Ford cars look like currently, and why would the Mustang be any different? The only problem I have with the rendering is the headlights. I personally don't see Ford going with that small and slender of a headlight, but overall, yes I could see the rendering becoming reality. Back in the early 90's and before the 94's came out people were screaming bloody murder about such a "drastic" change and the 4.6 engine. Same thing goes for the 2007's. I think if Ford produced the car in the renderings with some subtle changes to it, 95% of the people complaining about this possible change would be fine with it once it came out and out performed the competition.

 

[06fordfx4]

many people have tested the new GT vs the M3.

Motor trend has filmed their test.

please, tell me again how bad the mustangs handling is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwSPccbzl4


lapt times
BMW M3: 1:27.67
Mustang GT: 1:27.76


yep. mustangs handle horribly.

you need to realize they have changed it A LOT from years of past. so if you say the new mustangs lack in handling, then you must be a BMW fanboy to say an older BMW handles better than a new mustang, which handles well enough to almost beat a brand new M3 around a road course.

sorry, but i see no logic or facts at all in your post. you go ahead and keep thinking its a shitty handling car. whatever floats your boat.



and i do not believe it will look anything like the renderings. for so long, ford has made the mustang unique, it doesnt share a front end styling with any other car in its lineup. why would they change that, and have it look like every other car they have. taurus, fusion, etc. i cant see them doing that at all. and if they do, respect has been lost as the "american icon" mustang would have lost its roots. you may not be a true mustang fan judging by your posts, but the mustang is more than just a pony car to lots of people.

 

[Darth Bama]

many people have tested the new GT vs the M3.

Motor trend has filmed their test.

please, tell me again how bad the mustangs handling is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwSPccbzl4


lapt times
BMW M3: 1:27.67
Mustang GT: 1:27.76


yep. mustangs handle horribly.

you need to realize they have changed it A LOT from years of past. so if you say the new mustangs lack in handling, then you must be a BMW fanboy to say an older BMW handles better than a new mustang, which handles well enough to almost beat a brand new M3 around a road course.

sorry, but i see no logic or facts at all in your post. you go ahead and keep thinking its a shitty handling car. whatever floats your boat.



and i do not believe it will look anything like the renderings. for so long, ford has made the mustang unique, it doesnt share a front end styling with any other car in its lineup. why would they change that, and have it look like every other car they have. taurus, fusion, etc. i cant see them doing that at all. and if they do, respect has been lost as the "american icon" mustang would have lost its roots. you may not be a true mustang fan judging by your posts, but the mustang is more than just a pony car to lots of people.

Never once said it was a "shitty handling" car. I simply said it still lacks in the handling dept. No, I'm by no means a BMW fanboy, and to be honest, I've never much cared for smaller BMW's. Those videos are great, and those test are great. But in real world driving, the 4 year old M3 I drove still felt more nimble then the 2011 Mustang, sorry. I guess I'm not gushing with Mustang fanboy pride enough to blind me to the overall feel of the two cars. Does that mean the Mustang was junk? Not at all. I preferred the power of the Mustang over the BMW actually, and I'd pick the Mustang GT all day vs the BMW.

I understand the Mustang being an "American Icon". I get that, but why is IRS so communist??? I don't get that train of thought. Okay, you don't think the grille will happen, that actually makes sense to me, but what's the overall problem with the rest of the car? Explain to me what the next gen Mustang should look like then.

And what post have I made that would lead you to believe that I'm not a "true Mustang" fan? Please enlighten me. Was it the fact I wasn't praising every aspect of the current Mustang? Was it the fact that I'm not so blinded by my love for the Mustang that I can't see the car has flaws? If that's the case, no I'm not a Mustang fanboy, but I am a fan of the Mustang, and I'm more then proud as a Ford fan of what the current Mustang has done with it's competition. I hope the Mustang continues it's success into the future, regardless of whether it has a truck axle underneath it or not...

 

[jhoff8487]

An M3 will out handle a Mustang. No doubt about it. I love my Mustang but it isn't an M3. Lap times don't correspond directly to handling - there are many factors that make up a lap time. The truck suspension hasn't bothered me much but it does catch me off guard through some corners on occasion. I think IRS is the logical progression at this point.

 

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

More than a car, a Mustang ends up as a cultural icon. So, it shouldn't look too European altough it doesn't prevent some modern technicals to be incorporated such as the IRS and downsized turbocharged engines.

 

[Darth Bama]

More renderings and news...

http://wot.motortrend.com/spied-2015-ford-mustang-test-mule-disguised-as-2013-mustang-gt-215209.html

Subtle clues on the 2015 Mustang test mule hint that there are major changes under the 2013 Mustang GT body. The lower rear fascia has been trimmed around the exhaust tips, which could indicate slightly different positioning of the rear mufflers due to a different powertrain or underbody structure. The bulging fuel filler door camouflage suggests a change to the vehicle’s hard points necessitating the relocation of the door. Look closely, and it appears this test mule is also hiding the next-gen Mustang’s independent rear suspension, a much-anticipated change that should put the pony car on more equal footing with the Chevy Camaro and other sports coupes in its category from an overall handling perspective.

Read more: http://wot.motortrend.com/spied-201...-as-2013-mustang-gt-215209.html#ixzz296yWHatK
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[Zembonez]

There is little doubt that the next Mustang will have a turbo four and IRS. The only reason it isn't IRS now is cost.

We might as well face up to the fact that forced economy figures coming from the government are going to change the car world. The last really big government intervention (back in 1973) sucked. Back then emission controls and safety crap almost killed the performance car entirely.

Hopefully technology will prevent that this round.

 

[RedRider]

As long as insurance stays reasonable for performance cars, there will always be a market for them. I like the new lines for the rear portion.